The Conception of Meryem
(Third Part)
(01:00:45) (S) AYHAN (*): look I reemember something
(01:00:53) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah says that in the Quran
(01:01:17) (S) AYHAN (*): I created Hz Muhammed soul of me
(01:01:32) (S) AYHAN (*): according to Quran
(01:01:40) (S) AYHAN (*): the same actually
(01:02:13) *Carol*: Ok... we can go to Muhamed after... (cause I need to know much)....
(01:02:15) (S) AYHAN (*): do you know isa talked to the people when he was a baby in the bed?
(01:02:35) *Carol*: I didnt...
(01:02:47) (S) AYHAN (*): yes
(01:02:57) (S) AYHAN (*): you can see it in the Quran
(01:03:55) (S) AYHAN (*): open the 5. surah
(01:04:05) *Carol*: Ayhan, since Meryem gave birth to jesus through the word of God and the power of the Holy Spirit, we believe Jesus is the son of God... though it's not so simple.
(01:04:05) (S) AYHAN (*): 110 . word
(01:04:16) *Carol*: let me see
(01:06:39) (S) AYHAN (*): Carol, it is different little bit..Allah sent cebrail...and cebrail maybe did it with permission of Allah
(01:06:41) *Carol*: I knew Jesus did that when he was 12yo
(01:07:24) *Carol*: Ayhan, it is not written like that but God did it with his Word, isnt it?
(01:08:28) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah wanted do it
(01:08:32) (S) AYHAN (*): carol
(01:08:48) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah doesnt need someone or something to do something
(01:08:49) (S) AYHAN (*): ok?
(01:08:53) *Carol*: Ok
(01:09:01) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah says "be"
(01:09:03) (S) AYHAN (*): thas all
(01:09:08) *Carol*: Right!
(01:09:11) (S) AYHAN (*): everthings happens
(01:09:18) *Carol*: So Cebrail was a messenger
(01:09:23) *Carol*: And God did it
(01:09:31) (S) AYHAN (*): yes
(01:09:39) *Carol*: So who's the father?
(01:09:48) *Carol*: =)
(01:09:50) (S) AYHAN (*): no father
(01:09:59) (S) AYHAN (*): because
(01:10:01) (S) AYHAN (*): listen
(01:10:04) *Carol*: how can a baby be born without a father?
(01:10:33) (S) AYHAN (*): because Allah doesnt need man who will be a father of Isa
(01:10:43) (S) AYHAN (*): ok?
(01:10:58) *Carol*: I also think so...
(01:11:06) *Carol*: not a man
(01:11:12) (S) AYHAN (*): hence
(01:11:23) (S) AYHAN (*): we cannot say that isa is a son of Allah
(01:11:24) (S) AYHAN (*): ok?
(01:11:30) *Carol*: cause he can do it through his word ans spirit
(01:11:42) *Carol*: I believe so, Ayhan
(01:11:52) *Carol*: But I understand your point, anyway.
(01:12:08) *Carol*: =) It's just not a logical question.
(01:12:10) (S) AYHAN (*): how thou didst shape of clay as it were the likeness of a bird by My permission
(01:13:19) *Carol*: That's special
(01:13:21) (S) AYHAN (*): which question
(01:14:21) *Carol*: I mean it's not logical... we cannot get the answer by this way... it's a matter of faith, isnt it?
(01:14:53) (S) AYHAN (*): Jesus made a bird with clay..and he said the bird " fly " and then bird flyed...hwat do you think it can be possible ??
(01:15:33) (S) AYHAN (*): but Allah can do it
(01:15:46) *Carol*: Because he had the power of creation given by God, and He had his image because He was His son.
(01:15:54) (S) AYHAN (*): if Allah let it happens, it can be
(01:16:00) *Carol*: sure
(01:16:23) (S) AYHAN (*): carol how do you say like this still
(01:16:24) (S) AYHAN (*): ??
(01:16:47) *Carol*: How do you say like that still, Ayhan?
(01:16:47) (S) AYHAN (*): jesus couldnt create anything
(01:17:14) (S) AYHAN (*): Quran says that with MY permission
(01:17:20) *Carol*: You're in contradiction
(01:17:26) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah let him to show something
(01:17:32) *Carol*: Yes.. but he could
(01:17:46) *Carol*: Sure it was with His Permission
(01:17:57) (S) AYHAN (*): you should the difference bewtween them
(01:18:00) (S) AYHAN (*): see*
(01:18:01) *Carol*: I dont think Isa is bigger than God
(01:18:20) *Carol*: I see some
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