(third book of Surah)
(00:02:23) (S) AYHAN (*): carol first of all this is wrong
(00:02:34) *Carol*: =)
(00:02:40) *Carol*: What?
(00:02:41) (S) AYHAN (*): jesus is not son of Allah
(00:02:50) (S) AYHAN (*): yes
(00:03:17) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah is not a man
(00:04:11) *Carol*: I believe He is son of God, because He could not win if he wasn't...
(00:04:36) *Carol*: And he could not know God's character so deeply...
(00:04:40) (S) AYHAN (*): win?
(00:05:22) *Carol*: Win... because He never sinned, until the end... even when people hated him, they could love them until this point.
(00:05:43) *Carol*: * he could love them until this point
(00:05:57) *Carol*: * until the end
(00:06:05) (S) AYHAN (*): carol all prophets of Allah know Allah' character so deeply
(00:06:21) (S) AYHAN (*): it doesnt mean all pf them are son of Allah
(00:06:22) *Carol*: But they dont know Allah Himself
(00:06:22) (S) AYHAN (*): right?
(00:06:39) *Carol*: Alll the He is, isnt it?
(00:06:44) (S) AYHAN (*): how dont theey know Allah???????
(00:07:17) (S) AYHAN (*): I am talking about prophets of Allah
(00:07:25) *Carol*: Ayhan... I dont think you can find a word that tell me they knew Allah completely.
(00:07:42) (S) AYHAN (*): all of them know Allah's character so deeply
(00:08:06) *Carol*: Because if you find so, we are not talking about the same God I guess.
(00:08:23) *Carol*: deeply yes...
(00:08:29) *Carol*: but totally
(00:08:36) (S) AYHAN (*): I tell you what
(00:08:44) *Carol*: =)
(00:10:01) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah created evething in the cosmos and creates still
(00:10:14) (S) AYHAN (*): it has a endless power
(00:10:15) *Carol*: Yes... I believe so.
(00:10:36) (S) AYHAN (*): it is not in the sky or under the earth
(00:10:47) *Carol*: (L)
(00:10:50) (S) AYHAN (*): it is not on the right or on the right
(00:10:59) *Carol*: left
(00:11:00) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah is everhwere
(00:11:06) (S) AYHAN (*): everywhere
(00:11:13) (S) AYHAN (*): left*
(00:11:17) *Carol*: =)
(00:11:34) *Carol*: Right =)
(00:11:52) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah knows see and hear everthing
(00:12:24) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah is merciful and love its believer
(00:12:41) *Carol*: He is sovereign...
(00:12:48) (S) AYHAN (*): therefore Allah doesnt have a son
(00:13:06) (S) AYHAN (*): I will tell you what
(00:13:12) (S) AYHAN (*): think about
(00:13:28) (S) AYHAN (*): I reall believe in God who has a son
(00:13:29) *Carol*: =) hey... did you learn logics at school? I didnt find its sense
(00:13:33) (S) AYHAN (*): dont
(00:13:47) (S) AYHAN (*): I DONT reallY believe in God who has a son
(00:13:55) *Carol*: I know that
(00:14:01) (S) AYHAN (*): I will not
(00:14:07) (S) AYHAN (*): you know why
(00:14:18) *Carol*: No
(00:14:38) (S) AYHAN (*): it is gonna be redecilous
(00:14:48) (S) AYHAN (*): ridiculous
(00:14:49) *Carol*: Is it...
(00:14:59) (S) AYHAN (*): carol
(00:15:01) (S) AYHAN (*): please
(00:15:07) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah gived a brain
(00:15:11) *Carol*: Ayhan.. Isa is son of ?
(00:15:13) (S) AYHAN (*): think some
(00:15:20) (S) AYHAN (*): noooooooooooo
(00:15:22) (S) AYHAN (*): of course
(00:15:24) (S) AYHAN (*): please
(00:15:28) *Carol*: tell me
(00:15:31) *Carol*: please
(00:15:36) (S) AYHAN (*): carol
(00:15:52) *Carol*: Because I read it in the surah
(00:15:53) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah cannot be a human right
(00:16:07) (S) AYHAN (*): you read what ?
(00:16:09) *Carol*: So first ask y question...
(00:16:21) *Carol*: tell me whom Isa is son of.
(00:16:36) *Carol*: Acordding to your Quran
(00:16:55) (S) AYHAN (*): according to Quran isa is son of Meryem
(00:16:59) *Carol*: and?
(00:17:14) *Carol*: Meryem and?
(00:17:16) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah ordered the Cebrail angel
(00:17:21) (S) AYHAN (*): wait
(00:17:25) (S) AYHAN (*): I am telling you
(00:17:29) (S) AYHAN (*): you are so impatient
(00:17:33) (S) AYHAN (*): be patient
(00:17:35) *Carol*: =)
(00:17:38) (S) AYHAN (*): :)
(00:17:42) *Carol*: =D
(00:17:44) *Carol*: Ok
(00:19:15) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah says that in our book
(00:19:34) *Carol*: (F)
(00:19:37) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah send Cebrail angel to meryem
(00:19:43) (S) AYHAN (*): thank you
(00:19:46) *Carol*: =)
(00:19:59) (S) AYHAN (*): you know cebrail anymore right ?
(00:20:09) *Carol*: Yes... we call him Gabriel
(00:20:16) (S) AYHAN (*): ok
(00:20:46) (S) AYHAN (*): Cebrail blow out something
(00:20:51) (S) AYHAN (*): to meryem
(00:20:55) *Carol*: something?????????
(00:21:07) (S) AYHAN (*): it is so special something
(00:21:11) *Carol*: can you look at the surah
(00:21:17) (S) AYHAN (*): ok
(00:21:21) *Carol*: and tell me what is written
(00:21:45) *Carol*: so special something... =)
(00:25:19) *Carol*: By the way... I need a Quran... =) maybe online, if it is possible...
(00:25:32) (S) AYHAN (*): sure
(00:25:58) (S) AYHAN (*): http://www.kuran.gen.tr/?x=s_main&kid=14
(00:26:06) (S) AYHAN (*): it is in english
(00:26:23) *Carol*: Thank you (R)
(00:26:57) (S) AYHAN (*): http://www.kuran.gen.tr/?x=s_main&kid=24
(00:27:04) (S) AYHAN (*): in your language
(00:29:10) (S) AYHAN (*): do you read it in your language
(00:29:27) *Carol*: Yes... I'm reading now
(00:29:53) *Carol*: I'm looking for that part...
(00:31:53) *Carol*: Imram 45, 47
(00:32:18) *Carol*: (I don't know the right way to point the verse...)
(00:32:31) (S) AYHAN (*): imram
(00:32:38) (S) AYHAN (*): in your language ??
(00:32:57) *Carol*: yes... in mine it says Imram =/
(00:33:08) *Carol*: Imram family
(00:33:26) (S) AYHAN (*): what is the number of it ?
(00:33:59) *Carol*: 45 and 47
(00:34:15) (S) AYHAN (*): 45.surah
(00:34:16) (S) AYHAN (*): ??
(00:35:49) *Carol*: Hm...the third book of surah, maybe... "The family of Imram
(00:36:24) (S) AYHAN (*): ok
(00:37:02) *Carol*: http://www.kuran.gen.tr/?x=s_main&y=s_middle&kid=14&sid=3
(00:37:29) (S) AYHAN (*): I knew this surah
(00:37:39) *Carol*: =)
(00:37:43) (S) AYHAN (*): but there is no word about what something is
(00:37:49) *Carol*: yes...
(00:38:02) *Carol*: In 45 it says Christ Jesus...
(00:38:09) *Carol*: In 47...
(00:38:37) (S) AYHAN (*): carol in english says like that
(00:38:39) *Carol*: She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so; Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!"
(00:39:09) (S) AYHAN (*): but original it says isa
(00:39:27) *Carol*: Hm... you can send me your version
(00:39:33) (S) AYHAN (*): in arabic I mean
(00:39:33) (S) AYHAN (*): you got it
(00:41:20) (S) AYHAN (*): actualy in the Quran, it is not said Cebrail
(00:41:34) (S) AYHAN (*): it is said that it was a soul
(00:41:49) *Carol*: a soul... what soul?
(00:42:14) (S) AYHAN (*): there is no exact information about it in the Quran
(00:42:24) (S) AYHAN (*): or certain
(00:42:28) *Carol*: Ayhan, just tell me who gave life to Jesus in the surah 47
(00:43:02) (S) AYHAN (*): carol
(00:43:05) *Carol*: Because no man touched Meryem... who did gave life to Jesus through her
(00:43:10) (S) AYHAN (*): I read this surah
(00:43:25) (S) AYHAN (*): as you see there is no certain information
(00:43:28) (S) AYHAN (*): about it
(00:43:33) (S) AYHAN (*): thereis only soul
(00:43:36) *Carol*: I see it clearly as you do
(00:43:43) *Carol*: She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so; Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!" 48.
(00:43:59) (S) AYHAN (*): Yeah I read it just now
(00:44:22) *Carol*: Ok...
(00:44:55) (S) AYHAN (*): is there any question
(00:45:00) (S) AYHAN (*): in your mind
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