sexta-feira, 6 de novembro de 2009

Islam vs. Christianism (iii) The Holy Spirit

The Conception of Meryem
(Second Part)

(00:45:01) *Carol*: Do you talk about the Holy Spirit in the Quran?

(00:45:03) (S) AYHAN (*): about it

(00:45:43) (S) AYHAN (*): to be honest

(00:45:47) (S) AYHAN (*): I dont remember

(00:46:37) (S) AYHAN (*): I gound something

(00:46:39) *Carol*: We believe this soul you say you've read about in the Quran is the Holy Spirit of God.

(00:46:41) (S) AYHAN (*): found

(00:46:58) *Carol*: (I don't know if it's the same)

(00:47:04) *Carol*: Yes

(00:47:50) (S) AYHAN (*): but do you know Kuds

(00:47:55) *Carol*: No..

(00:48:00) *Carol*: What is it?

(00:48:23) (S) AYHAN (*): Jerusalem

(00:48:28) *Carol*: ah yes

(00:48:40) *Carol*: the arabic name to Jerusalem =)

(00:48:58) (S) AYHAN (*): no arabic name is kuds

(00:48:59) *Carol*: and turkish also...

(00:49:05) *Carol*: Quds

(00:49:48) (S) AYHAN (*): you can find it in Quran as a soul of Kuds

(00:49:49) *Carol*: Ok, I know, but it remembered me the arabic name

(00:49:58) *Carol*: aaaaaaaaaah

(00:50:10) *Carol*: Quds means saint

(00:50:18) *Carol*: holy

(00:50:18) (S) AYHAN (*): soul of Kuds means Holy spirit

(00:50:26) *Carol*: the holy city quds

(00:50:31) *Carol*: yes...

(00:50:41) *Carol*: =)

(00:51:24) *Carol*: I am enjoying very much this talk...

(00:51:27) *Carol*: =)

(00:51:39) (S) AYHAN (*): open 2 surah

(00:51:42) *Carol*: ok

(00:51:44) (S) AYHAN (*): a vaca

(00:51:48) (S) AYHAN (*): ok?

(00:51:58) (S) AYHAN (*): look at the 87 . word

(00:52:02) *Carol*: (oh... you're learning portuguese well)

(00:52:34) (S) AYHAN (*): :D

(00:53:03) (S) AYHAN (*): how they call it ??

(00:53:13) (S) AYHAN (*): as a holy spirit??

(00:53:21) (S) AYHAN (*): or soul of kuds

(00:53:53) *Carol*: holy spirit in english.. I lost the portuguese version

(00:53:58) *Carol*: =)

(00:54:23) (S) AYHAN (*): can you fin it ?

(00:54:25) (S) AYHAN (*): find

(00:54:26) *Carol*: But it must be "Espí­rito Santo" there

(00:54:27) (S) AYHAN (*): :D

(00:55:57) (S) AYHAN (*): Espí­rito da Santidade

(00:55:59) (S) AYHAN (*): this is it

(00:56:00) *Carol*: Concedemos o Livro a Moisés, e depois dele enviamos muitos mensageiros, e concedemos a Jesus, filho de Maria, as evidências, e o fortalecemos com o Espírito da Santidade. Cada vez que vos era apresentado um mensageiro, contrário aos vossos interesses, vós vos ensoberbec­eis! Desment­eis uns e assassináveis outros. 88. D\

(00:56:01) (S) AYHAN (*): ??

(00:56:11) *Carol*: Oh... you got it faster than me.. =)

(00:56:15) *Carol*: Yes...

(00:56:18) (S) AYHAN (*): yes

(00:56:32) *Carol*: Espí­rito da Santidade is not the expression we use

(00:56:38) *Carol*: But it means the same

(00:57:13) (S) AYHAN (*): lets make clear it together

(00:57:20) (S) AYHAN (*): as you see

(00:57:36) (S) AYHAN (*): meryem got her son from a soul

(00:57:42) *Carol*: It would be like Holy Spirit and Spirit of Holiness

(00:58:00) (S) AYHAN (*): it is thought that it can be Cebrail

(00:58:09) *Carol*: It doesnt say it exactly actually

(00:58:11) (S) AYHAN (*): but Allah sent Cebrail

(00:58:39) (S) AYHAN (*): Allah said "be"

(00:58:42) (S) AYHAN (*): and it is

(00:58:48) *Carol*: Yes..

(00:58:51) (S) AYHAN (*): so it happened that's all

(00:58:59) (S) AYHAN (*): carol

(00:59:05) (S) AYHAN (*): please

(00:59:20) (S) AYHAN (*): you must believe that it happened like that

(00:59:27) (S) AYHAN (*): you are a smart girl

(00:59:38) *Carol*: Do you believe the holy spirit is the spirit of God?

(00:59:40) (S) AYHAN (*): and I believe that you can undesrtand it

(01:00:01) (S) AYHAN (*): good question

(01:00:05) (S) AYHAN (*): :)

(01:00:19) (S) AYHAN (*): yeah

(01:00:23) *Carol*: =) That's very clear for us...

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